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03/06/2024 03:30 PM House TRIBAL AFFAIRS

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03:37:26 PM Start
03:38:36 PM HJR17
04:38:41 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+= HJR 17 SUPPORT FED TRUTH AND HEALING COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved HJR 17 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
        HJR 17-SUPPORT FED TRUTH AND HEALING COMMISSION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that the  only order of business would                                                                
be  HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION  NO. 17,  Urging  the United  States                                                                
Congress  to pass  the Truth  and Healing  Commission on  Indian                                                                
Boarding School Policies Act.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:39:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:40:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK introduced his staff to provide a brief overview                                                                
of HJR 17.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALLAN  CHYTHLOOK-SIFSOF,  Staff, Representative  CJ  McCormick,                                                                
Alaska State Legislature, on behalf of Representative McCormick,                                                                
prime sponsor, provided a recap of HJR 17.  She said that HJR 17                                                                
urges the U.S. Congress to pass the Truth and Healing Commission                                                                
on the Indian Boarding School  Policies Act.  She explained that                                                                
the resolution  is in  support of  U.S. Senate  Bill 1723.   The                                                                
resolution refers  to  the 2022  Federal Indian  Boarding School                                                                
Initiative Investigative  Report findings.   She  explained that                                                                
there is ample data to be  compiled to account for the abuse and                                                                
trauma that Native children experienced from the boarding school                                                                
era in Alaska.  The  intent of the legislation is to acknowledge                                                                
the harm  from the assimilation and elimination  of culture that                                                                
occurred.  The aim is  to also compile records to validate first                                                                
person accounts across Alaska  and recognize these atrocities to                                                                
heal and move forward.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CHYTHLOOK-SIFSOF  provided  a   personal   anecdote  about                                                                
unaddressed  trauma  in   her  own  family.     Supporting  this                                                                
resolution would help to validate the experiences of elders from                                                                
the era of assimilative boarding schools.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY EDENSHAW, President, Alaska Native Heritage Center, shared                                                                
her background studying generational  trauma among Alaska Native                                                                
people who  have traumatic  boarding school experiences  for her                                                                
doctoral   dissertation  through  the   University   of  Alaska,                                                                
Fairbanks.   She shared a  personal story about  her grandfather                                                                
who attended  boarding school.   She noted  that her  mother was                                                                
forcibly adopted and met  her biological family at age  18.  Her                                                                
biological grandfather refused  to speak in  his Native language                                                                
because of his  experiences at boarding school.   She noted that                                                                
healing is at  the center of her  work.  She said,  "When I heal                                                                
myself, I heal my ancestors who have come before me."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EDENSHAW expressed  her  support for  HJR  17, which  would                                                                
champion the well-being of Alaska's  first peoples.  She thanked                                                                
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BENJAMIN  JACUK, Indigenous  Researcher, Alaska  Native Heritage                                                                
Center, emphasized that every Alaska Native person knows someone                                                                
who  has a  story  about boarding  schools.   He  explained that                                                                
throughout his  upbringing, the  topic of  assimilative boarding                                                                
schools  were  "unspoken  stories."    His  experiences  at  the                                                                
Princeton Theological Seminary helped him to realize how much is                                                                
left to  learn about the  experiences of Alaska  Native peoples.                                                                
He  recollected his  realization  that  no  other Alaska  Native                                                                
person  other  than  himself   had  graduated  or  attended  the                                                                
Princeton Theological Seminary because it was  the alma mater of                                                                
Sheldon  Jackson.     He  mentioned   "historical  amnesia"  and                                                                
explained that stories  of Alaska Native  assimilation have been                                                                
forgotten on purpose.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACUK  described the archives from  the last 100  years that                                                                
have yet to be interpreted and  may be used to better understand                                                                
the  impacts  on  Native  Alaskans.     He  offered  to  discuss                                                                
structural  violence   and  peace   research  and   offered  his                                                                
understanding about  how  structures negatively  affected Alaska                                                                
Native  peoples because  of  boarding schools.   Primary  source                                                                
material has  verified 100 stories throughout  the United States                                                                
so far.  He  mentioned that the Alaska Native Heritage Center is                                                                
working  with  the  National  Native  American  Boarding  School                                                                
Healing Coalition and hopes to publish its work later this year.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EDENSHAW discussed  how  the Alaska  Federation of  Natives                                                                
unanimously passed a  resolution.  She described  a healing pole                                                                
that was constructed and raised with 1,000 people in attendance.                                                                
She explained  that this is  a resolution around healing  and is                                                                
not meant to create blame  or vilify any organizations, in fact,                                                                
there are partnerships with  churches and universities.  Raising                                                                
the  healing pole  was historic  and signified  positive healing                                                                
energy.  She explained that Alaska Natives and all Alaskans have                                                                
the right to know  what happened during the boarding school era.                                                                
She added that since raising the healing pole, the Alaska Native                                                                
Heritage Center was invited to apply for $3.5 million in funding                                                                
to raise 10 more healing  monuments.  She urged the committee to                                                                
champion the legislature to  continue helping Native communities                                                                
to heal.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:02:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK thanked the presenters  and opened the floor for                                                                
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  asked when the  last boarding  school was                                                                
open.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACUK answered that with the New Deal in 1932, the Bureau of                                                                
Indian Affairs  took over boarding  schools.  He  explained that                                                                
Mt. Edgecombe school is  still around but has since transitioned                                                                
away  from being  an  assimilative institution.    He said  that                                                                
several  institutions   are  still  standing,  but   there  were                                                                
significant policy  changes that  came into  effect in  1969 and                                                                
1970.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  sought to  clarify if  1932 was  the last                                                                
year  of  assimilative boarding  schools  before the  Bureau  of                                                                
Indian Affairs took over.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACUK answered yes  and explained that independent ecclesial                                                                
schools  still received  federal funding.    He  exemplified the                                                                
Wrangell Institute which was a boarding school that was operated                                                                
by the Bureau of Indian Affairs after 1932.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:06:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE commented  that  HJR 17  appears  to be  a                                                                
straight-forward  piece of  legislation.    She  noted that  the                                                                
testimony she  heard alluded  to relatively short  timeframes of                                                                
attendance at the boarding schools.  She asked how long children                                                                
were proposed to attend the boarding schools.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EDENSHAW referenced  Dianne Hirshberg  who was  one of  the                                                                
first academics who interviewed  boarding school survivors.  She                                                                
explained that the time spent  at boarding schools varied.  Some                                                                
accounts involved children as young as 4 or 5, and some children                                                                
attended until  they were 18.   She explained that  just because                                                                
the testifiers were there for one to five years, boarding school                                                                
experiences were still traumatic.  She mentioned that one of the                                                                
interviewees from her  research was away from  their family from                                                                
ages 8-18.   She described how  she would feel if  her child was                                                                
taken  by the  government or  church at  such a  young  age with                                                                
limited communication.   She offered  to follow up  with primary                                                                
source documents.   She emphasized the  importance of continuing                                                                
the  research to  record more  experiences.   She sought  to not                                                                
diminish the experiences  of those who may have  spent less time                                                                
at boarding schools compared to others.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:10:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACUK said  in  1885 Sheldon  Jackson  was actively  taking                                                                
children from  their homes.   He described a  U.S. Supreme Court                                                                
case, which  ruled on  the side  of  the parents.   In  the 1887                                                                
Boarding School Report  on Education in  Alaska, Sheldon Jackson                                                                
defied the  ruling and  defined an  orphan as  a child  with one                                                                
parent or, by his own definition, parents who are unable to care                                                                
for their child, which opened the door for any child to be taken                                                                
away.  He explained that dog tags were used to identify children                                                                
if they ran away.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACUK  told a  story of  his great uncle  and aunt  who were                                                                
taken to a boarding school.   He said that his great grandfather                                                                
attempted to retrieve his children from boarding school.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:14:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE said  that she didn't want  to minimize the                                                                
impacts of the trauma and abuse.  She noted lawlessness that was                                                                
perpetuated through time and thanked them for the clarification.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACUK  explained how Sheldon Jackson,  through the doctrines                                                                
of  predestination  and  discovery forcibly  assimilated  Alaska                                                                
Natives.    He  said  that  at  the  time,  Americanization  and                                                                
Christianity were  one in the  same and  the laws of  the period                                                                
reflected the views of Christians.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:16:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHYTHLOOK-SIFSOF thanked the presenters for their expertise.                                                                
She acknowledged the  difficulties of comprehending the mindsets                                                                
of leaders from the boarding school era.  She stated that as she                                                                
learns more about  what is being uncovered  through the research                                                                
accomplished by the Alaska Native Heritage Center, the easier it                                                                
is for her to find clarity and healing.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  about  the  global  impacts of  the                                                                
British Empire  and how  religious aspects are  intertwined with                                                                
many other cultures around the world.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACUK said  that reformational  theology is  highlighted in                                                                
theologian Charles Hodge's "Systematic Theology  Volume II."  He                                                                
discussed  the  comity plan,  which  was  the  first time  where                                                                
ecclesial institutions came together.  He described efforts from                                                                
the  comity  plan  spreading  though mission  groups  throughout                                                                
Canada, Korea, New Zealand, Australia, and other countries.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:22:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EDENSHAW emphasized that  history  has many  "aha moments."                                                                
There  are certain  parts  of history  that  are recently  being                                                                
uncovered.   She explained that  as she continues to  learn, she                                                                
feels  a  sense  of   responsibility  to  ensure  that  accurate                                                                
information is  available for all  Alaskans.  She  discussed how                                                                
Sheldon Jackson's assimilation tactics  had lasting impacts that                                                                
are still felt today.  She mentioned the loss of languages.  She                                                                
emphasized the importance of continuing research.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK  opened public  testimony on  HJR 17,  and after                                                                
ascertaining that  no one  wished to  testify, he  closed public                                                                
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:26:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  said  she  appreciated  the  sponsor  for                                                                
bringing forward  the resolution and  the discussion.   She said                                                                
that she resonated with the feelings of sending her children off                                                                
to school.   She noted the difficulty in  admitting that our own                                                                
government and  churches  participated in  assimilative boarding                                                                
schools for such  a long time.  She  noted that having difficult                                                                
conversations  about  history  is  important.    She  noted  the                                                                
challenge in hearing what Christian  churches had done to Alaska                                                                
Natives.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE said that she was recently referred to as a                                                                
"Christian Nationalist."   She said  that she loves  her nation,                                                                
and she loves Jesus.  She explained that during the presentation                                                                
she learned of a deep history that has created hardship that she                                                                
was previously unaware  of.  This realization has  helped her to                                                                
understand that  the  label "Christian  Nationalist" is  used in                                                                
fear and concern that the  same actions could happen again.  She                                                                
noted the heavy topics  that are discussed in committee meetings                                                                
and that  she does  not condone  the actions of  the past.   She                                                                
stated  that she  wants to  be a  part of  the  healing process.                                                                
Talking about  difficult topics and finding  solutions will help                                                                
to transform the next generation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:29:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK added  that he  feels  he is  "standing on  the                                                                
shoulders of the  work of others."   He highlighted the strength                                                                
and  courage  of  the  presenters  for  telling  their  personal                                                                
stories.  He thanked the presenters for their research.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:31:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHYTHLOOK-SIFSOF  thanked the  committee and  presenters for                                                                
their eloquent words.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:31:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DIBERT moved to report HJR 17 from committee with                                                                
individual recommendations  and  the accompanying  fiscal notes.                                                                
There being  no objection,  HJR 17 was  reported from  the House                                                                
Special Committee on Tribal Affairs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:32:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:32 p.m. to 4:36 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. EDENSHAW provided closing  remarks and thanked the committee                                                                
and presenters for taking a  collective step forward in terms of                                                                
healing.  She thanked Representative Vance for her comments.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACUK thanked  the committee  for the  opportunity to  tell                                                                
these stories.                                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR017A.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 Sponsor Statement 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 Sectional Analysis 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 Alaska Boarding School Abbreviated Bibliography 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 ANHC Letter of Support 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 ANHC Supporting Document 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 ANHC Presentation 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 SOI Letter 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 ISER UAA Report 2005 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 IA FIBSI Report Part 1 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 IA FIBSI Report Part 3 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 IA FIBSI Report Part 2 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
United States vs Sheldon Jackson Archives 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR17 Dr. Charles Wrangell Experience 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 Presentation 3.4.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17
HJR17 Fiscal Note 3.6.24.pdf HTRB 3/6/2024 3:30:00 PM
HJR 17